Talk:Viability Ranking/@comment-39230426-20191025224214

Nadiel the Pyromancer SS --> S+

Nadiel the Flooder S+ --> Stay

Nadiel the Deforestator AA --> A+

Oh boy, Nemesis are hard to rank. Especially ones that aren't all that fantastic. And this comment is gonna be a tad harder for me to write since I personally wanted Deforestator for S-, but eh, I can understand the council's reasonings.

For Pyromancer, his bump down is because of a few reasons. 1: Despite his Cursur with a Support skill role, his stats are more geared towards being an Attacker. And even then, his stats are still really piss poor for a proper Attacker role. 2: Despite being a Curser, he completely lacks any form of PER, which is something a modern Curser kinda wants to have if they wanna survive in this meta. 3: While his skills are pretty awesome, all of his good skills are all AoE, meaning he gets shut down way too easily by AoE Dodge and Mega Taunt.

For Flooder, he's honestly fine staying where he is right now in S+. We in the Ranking Council see Flooder and Pyromancer  to both be on pretty equal terms with each other. They have just about the same merits as they do negatives. Flooder's Speed is the highest out of the Nadiels at 3476, but is still very unimpressive. He has all the same problems I mentioned with Pyromancer above. The only major difference between the two is that Flooder can be run as a Denier because of his Freezing abilities, but other than that, they both are on basically the same page.

As for Deforestator, in terms of skills, he's actually the best Curser out of all the Nadiels in a weird way. He still outputs DoT with his ability to apply Poison (although Pyromancer does this better since he applies both Burn and Ignite), his Speed, while piss-poor, is fine for a TS Holder, and he's the only Nadiel form with access to PER. His issues however are the same as above. His combination of terrible stats (the worse out of all 3 btw), he can only apply Total Damage Reduction, Guard Down and Poison in terms of Negative Status Effects (outside of his PER, which I don't really consider a status, but more a form of cleaning statuses), and his total reliance of AoE skills being his best (again, think AoE Dodge and Megataunt).

For all these reasons, the Nadiels are now being put into those ranks. We should start talking about monsters that are unranked now since many are long overdue.