Talk:Zenfira/@comment-39230426-20200109154510/@comment-36515094-20200110021532

"Can you guys not see her amazing support skills?"

Her amazing support skills all involve increasing damage, which is not very good in the meta. Attackers aren't popular in the meta and having skills that support them isn't good in the meta. So, in comparison to the meta where monsters aren't trying to deal crazy amounts of damage, no her support skills really aren't amazing.

"She has an amazing strength stat. Running her with a tank and another support would be amazing as she is a great support."

And the problem with this team comp is that you have no Denier making your team easy to deny overall. How is this team going to break through Mega Taunts like Eisul and Santerion? While your team can easily be denied after Mega Taunt is gone. While she may have a great strength stat, her highest damaging skill is 60 which isn't that high for more modern attackers.

"Putting her with santerion and wrymlad would be completly toxic as even if your opponent's denier goes first it would have to both trait disable and per + extra turn to effect the team."

They wouldn't have to PER them. They just have to Trait Disable Santerion and then do what ever they need to. Once again, you have no denier in this comp making you susceptible to being denied. Thallasa and Thundeer can easily run through this comp as well as other deniers if they are behind mega taunt as well. Just looking at this comp, it would get completely walled by Santerion. No way to disable his trait making you get demolished by him and any denier hiding behind it. This comp wouldn't really be toxic seeing as it isn't hard to defeat.

"I don't know any monster with amazing pierce skills but that would be one of the only viable ways. The double damage with wrymlad is going to destroy, and wrymlad and also support along with Zenfire, with revival."

You don't need Pierce to defeat this comp as shown above. Wyrmlad doesn't have many high damaging skills so he won't really be able to destroy with Double Damage. Wyrmlad's Revival can easily be countered by Nikasia who is pretty popular in the meta.

Zenfire already has NER so Wrymlad can run mostly attacker with only St.George apprentice. I guess you could use another attacker, but I personally like wrymlad as a support/attacker. I don't know, but she seems very good.

Wrymlad's attacking skills in general aren't all that great compared to his supportive abilities. She just doesn't fit the meta, so she really isn't amazing