Talk:Viability Ranking/@comment-40265678-20191222232333/@comment-39644519-20191223135147

“All the monster you mentioned have PER in the same turn a trait disable... so shut down eisul as well.”

Literally the only one who has both is Pumpseed. Thalassa doesn’t, Crabby doesn’t, Fusion doesn’t, etc. What the frick are you talking about? Yes, they all have it, but it will take multiple turns to do that, and by then anticipation could hurt them pretty badly if they have that.

“And there a many more viable monster with PER but not trait disable (ie wyrmlad hornet sherezar and santerion himself)”

Okay, maybe there are, but trait disable is still something that all teams should have in this meta. You’ll be hurt by tanks like Eisul and Santerion if you don’t. And uh, don!t count Santerion in that please. He’s not going to get turns in enough to make him a reliable source of it.

“Santerion can tank more hits as it’s easier to PER than to trait disable.”

It’s not eaasier to do one effect than the other. The both take a fricking turn to do. Eisul is always going to tank equal or more hits because you have to get rid of 2 effects and not just one. PER isn’t easier to do than TD. If teams have both (which they should) they are just as easy to apply. It’s not like one effects is harder to do. They both take a turn to apply. Bruh

“Santriom can neactivate mega taunt way more easily as all you need to do is NER, with Eisul needs to get a turn in to do it.”

Okay, but you can reapply taunt to Eisul as well. Most teams are going to have area dodge. That’ll shut you down almost as hard as MT. There’s not too much of a difference. Also, have you um... heard of turn transfers? They’re this thing that some monsters have (I’ll admit that it’s not very common), but it’s where monsters give a turn to another monster. So they could give Eisul a turn to do that.

“His can even be an attacker as well as a tank. He has better tortures than eisul’s curse with the two random tortures.”

And um... what’s better than tortures? DENIAL. FREAKING DENIAL. Does precious Santerion have that? No, he doesn’t, which makes Eisul’s moveset a lot better, since denial is so invaluable in this meta. Would you still use Thalassa is instead of mega freeze she did bleeding? Probably not as much. Denial is very important, and even though neither of them will get turns in much, Eisul being able to actually deny other monsters is great.