Talk:Viability Ranking/@comment-65.93.173.128-20191104224405/@comment-36515094-20191106004453

"well, with kronx, you said yourself that denying is getting less effective, and ol thalassa dosen't have any form of creative denial, like megataunt or cda. also eisul dosen't have the most health of any tank, which is what i meant.also barby and some other warmaster i'm forgetting have higher speed(maybe) so not the fastest denier?"

Thalassa doesn't need any special form of denial. Any positive effect that her enemies have she can PER away so she doesn't have to worry about them. Any trait that stops her from doing her job she can trait disable and wont have to worry about. She has all the tools to make sure she denies the enemies. As for Eisul not having the highest life stat I'll repeat what I said earlier, As long as he protects his teammates he can win. Him not having the highest life stat out of all tanks isn't a big problem either because, as mentioned earlier, he just needs to protect his team until they can get a turn in. Also, his health is high enough as to where he can last some hits to protect his team. 43,000 health is the 7th highest health stat still, so its really good. You're looking way too much on stats rather than stats and how effective they are actually. I already stated how useful Eisul is in the meta, and for this reason, there is no reason to drop him from OP-. Also, Barbael is a bad denier. His only form of denial is total blind. Total Blind is extremely unreliable considering it can easily be NER'd or the enemy can just use a support skill. It doesn't really matter how high Barbael's speed is since he isn't a good denier.

"also first strike is crucial for any team, which is why everyone uses speed runes. also per wrecks lives and immunity to control and ner are very powerful. Isn't that why kronx is ss+?"

The first strike isn't as crucial as you would think. With Mega Taunt being introduced, it made the first move in the match less valuable. Instead, it makes it as to where having a denier with PER more valuable now. And Thalassa has NER + much more, making her by far the best denier in the game. Yes Kronx is in SS+ for those reasons, but its because she can't deal with Immunity to Control. Thalassa can easily deal with Immunity to Control because of PER and Trait Disable