Talk:Viability Ranking/@comment-29393109-20180126233020

So uh here's my 2 cents on D and E Ranks as well as who I think should be Platinum Rank (the main focus of this post is Platinum Rank but there's like 10 monsters in D and E Ranks combined so I thought wynaut throw them in?

Firelequin D+ >> D-

First Fire Supporter in the game, but it's so shit people forget it even exists

Tyros D+ >>>> B-

Extremely underrated, while this may not seem like a large jump, the last time I thought a Monster was very underrated was like in A Rank or smth, While his Life is really Low, all Attackers are gonna one-shot anything not named Ouros, Igursus and Cryotan unless they're carrying Life Runes, so it's not like it's a big deal, slap a Life Rune and bam, problem solved, second, while his Trait is Immune to Burning and his Speed is 3399 and I've pointed out below 3400 Speed and a Trait that isn't Hardened, or Immune to Stun/Possession/Freeze as a negative, this guy has more Speed than all other Monsters where I mention this and he has a Higher Speed stat than Timerion, also his Skills aren't bad since he has some strong 0 CD Skills and 2 strong AOEs

Vadamagna D+ >> C

Breedable

Cupid D- >> D+

3542 Speed (faster than Krampus and Jasastur) and a Single Stun

Firus D- > E+

Worse than Nemestrinus, worse stats, not breedable

Lagerchaun E > E-

Worst Legendary in the game, your mom could wipe this thing out of existence without taking 1 point of damage it's so bad, I mean seriously those stats are terrible all around

Nebotus E- >> E+

Breedable

Ok now to what this post is actually about, Platinum Rank

<p style="font-weight:400;">Samael: Fuck him he stays there

<p style="font-weight:400;">Xiron: Read Samael

<p style="font-weight:400;">Zimnyaya: Read Xiron

<p style="font-weight:400;">Timerion: This isn't 2015 anymore, there are countless good monsters with good 0 CD Skills, including some Monsters in the Lower Ranks (e.g: Tyros, Vadamagma, Monster Clutch), he has Space Time but Nishant's BG has Evasion which is literally the same thing, sure he has Mirror Mirror but Gretchen has a 2 Turn Mirror Mirror, sure he has Stop Time but that gives him and Extra Turn, and uhhhh A N T I C I P A T I O N Equalizer is shit in PVP unless you're fighting Ouros, and even then DoTs can wipe Ouros clean giving you little reason to use it, and since we don't factor in Dungeons and Adventure Map when Ranking Monsters (atleast I don't since you can complete an entire Dungeon with a Team of 3 Nebotus and scrubs will use that in their argument for why Nebotus is severely underrated, which he's not), yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, he has CDs Deactivated but Copperbeard has a CDs Deactivated with 0 CD so it can actually do what it's supposed to do, everything else isn't worth mentioning except maybe Time Machine but that move is ass compared to Timerion's other skills, overall I don't think Timerion is worthy of being in Platinum Rank with all this power creep, plus, if you want a Monster with CDs Activated, you're better off using Dungeon Master since she also has an AOE Total Blind and can actually, you know, DEAL DAMAGE, Timerion is the only Top Tier (Top Tier being Platinum, SS and S Ranks) in the game to rely so heavily on Teammates, like kill Timerion's allies and boom ez $$$, it's like fighting a 3 vs 2 + some meat shield that can annoy you but can't actually fight you

<p style="font-weight:400;">So that leaves 2 spots missing in Platinum Rank, and imo those are:

<p style="font-weight:400;">Llum the Magical Matriarch: She has a Speed of 3509 and 2 AOE Stuns, she can also give Double Damage and Precision to all allies, she has an AOE Remove Positive Effects, Blind and Damage Reduction, and some more shit but that's about all you need to know before I go overboard, definetly a Top 5 monster

<p style="font-weight:400;">Warthak the Mountainsplitter/Warthak the Sunbringer: So Warthak- "Guil wtf that's 2 Monsters which would make 6 Platinum Rank Monsters and Platinum Rank is reserved for the Top 5 what kind of drugs-" SILENCE BITCH I'M SPEAKING, anyway, Warthak's trait is legit busted, you're Immune to all Control Effects (Stun, Mega Stun, Freeze, Mega Freeze and EVERY form of Possession), which means the only ways to Immobilize Warthak are either rare or unreliable, these are: Stop Time (there's like 2 or 3 Monsters that have this), Total Damage Reduction (a few monsters have this but not alot), Total Blind (there's about 4-5 monsters with this atm iirc), Stamina Drain (Relics and Ultimate lol) and CDs Activated (Mountainsplitter/Sunbringer Stroke has 0 CD and it's strong af boi)

<p style="font-weight:400;">"But um Guil you haven't explained why you said Mountainsplitter and Sunbringer even though that would make 6 Monsters and Platinum Rank is only Top 5"

<p style="font-weight:400;">Well you'd be right, what I'm suggesting is that Warthak the Mountainsplitter and Sunbringer share 1 spot in the Ranking the way Samael the Fever Scatterer and Plague Carrier were before I stepped in (check the Ranking history for it I'm lazy), the reason being is, unlike the Samaels, the $30 Warthaks don't have enough differences between them, with Samael it's obvious, Fever Scatterer is an Attacker and Plague Carrier is a Supporter (Fever Scatterer can be a Supporter but why are you getting him for Support when Samael the P.C. exists?), with the Warthaks, they're both Attackers with a few differences, their differences are: Power (Mountainsplitter 3608 vs Sunbringer 3630), Speed (M 3432 vs S 3421), and 5 Skills, which just changes element from Dark to Light, so Mountainsplitter is good vs Earth Monsters while Sunbringer is good vs Dark Monsters, both of which most Earth Monsters struggle to break through (Earth) or get easily demolished by (Dark), so really one isn't better than the other for all situations and their differences are too minor

<p style="font-weight:400;">So here would be what I think Platinum Rank should be:

<p style="font-weight:400;">Samael the Plague Carrier

<p style="font-weight:400;">Xiron the Ruby

<p style="font-weight:400;">Zimnyaya

<p style="font-weight:400;">Llum the Magical Matriarch

<p style="font-weight:400;">Warthak the Mountainsplitter/Sunbringer

<p style="font-weight:400;">This isn't in alphabetical order but it is in order of how good I think they are, so yes, despite Xiron having like 257348593459723456734657234657234659343592365329438047230147120612941237451239423461239046123789461237946123946 denial Skills, I still think Samael is better but by a very slight margin