Talk:Zenfira/@comment-43507804-20200109132826/@comment-36515094-20200110200616

"that maximum of 60 Power on a lower Power stat with no boosts beyond unreliable Double Damage still put Ursus in SS-."

That's not what put Ursus in SS-. Ursus was put in SS- for his ability to have an AoE Pierce which only about 2 other monsters can easily do. He also has other tools than just a 60 power skill. Also, he has damage boost + extra turn allowing for him to quickly get a boosted up attack, unless anticipation stops it of course.

"In the SS- tier, she's arguably a better attacker alone than Ursus, and she can pull off support as well."

While she may be a better attacker, Ursus is still there because of his useful ability with Pierce and his easy access to AoE Pierce. It's not really about Ursus being a regular attacker .Ursus has a useful ability while Zenfira's abilities aren't as useful. I'm not saying she's worse than Ursus, honestly she's probably better.

"Plus, I'd like to say this again. "Not meta" and "isn't useful at all" are 2 extremely different terms."

I didn't say isn't useful at all. I said she won't be performing great in the meta. "Isn't useful at all" and "won't be performing great in the meta" have 2 completely different meanings. And you're making it sound like I'm saying she's about as good as someone in B tier, when I'm not

"Surprisingly, not every single human being you ever face is going to have the Wyrm-Rag-Eisul core, my guy. That's like saying Mario's useless in the Smash 4 meta because actually everyone ever plays Bayonetta."

But that's one of the more common teams to face in the meta which is something that people will face often. I never said Zenfira will be useless so that Mario comparison isn't applicable to what I said.