Talk:Viability Ranking/@comment-38078818-20191223191144/@comment-39644519-20191223221930

"Santerion is more difficult to deny than Eisul due to his trait."

All meta teams will have trait disable, as Yoshi said, so it really shouldn't be a problem. In addition to that, many great deniers have trait disable and denial, like Crabby, Pumpseed, Thalassa, and even Draghar has a td denial move and he isn't even a denial. It's not that big of a deal when most of the deniers that people will be using can get rid of it and still deny him.

"It as also much easier to reactivate mega taunt as you just need to NER it."

Pretty much the same thing goes here. A lot of trait disablers are deniers, and he will most likely be denied and not be able to get a turn in to do that, leaving him more reliant on his teammates to get rid of TD.

"Also ingenica isn’t a significant counter to Santa. She has no use in top players - wickah completely outclasses her."

A: Top players do use Ingenica, and B: She's has some uses that Wickah doesn't, including being good against cda and also hating on Santerion a lot. She'll still see some use.

"Eisul also has countered like that e.g Barbari. You can’t use ingenica as a con for santerion"

Well, for one, the thing is that Babari is good against all water monsters, not just specifically Eisul. Ingenica is more suited for specifically hating on Santerion with artifact hater and double damage as well as having trait disable.

Secondly for that one, Babari is a cons of Eisul's. No one is saying it isn't. Just like Ingenica is a con of Santerion. We can absolutely use Ingenica as a con for Santerion, given that she is one the best counters to him in the game. She is great against him. That's kind of what a con is