Talk:Viability Ranking/@comment-39644519-20200201221413/@comment-36515094-20200204154116

"3454 is the minimum for a support. His speed is ok."

3454 is not the minimum for a support. That is below the minimun for a support. The minimum for a support now is probably around the high 3400s so around 3480 or 3490. His speed is bad plain and simple. And even if his speed is the minimum for a support that still isn't good. The minimum is the worst possible meaning that his speed is still bad for a support.

"If your allies are dead, a 65 spammable damage with a 3509 power is a nice gimmick."

Gimmick. That is literally what Fenrir is, a gimmick. A monster basically just being a gimmick isn't good.

"Attackers are essential in a team, and newer and best attackers are almost always immune to stun."

Attackers are no where near essential for a team. They can easily be replaced by a monster that spreads tortures. The most common meta teams are Tank + Denier + Support, where either the denier or support spreads tortures, or Tank + Denier + Curser, where the curser spreads tortures. Attackers are not essential in the meta since they can just be replaced.

"CDA is one of the most used forms of denying, and he's completely immune to it."

This is also kind of false. The most used form of denying is most likely freeze. Most top deniers are using freeze. And if there are some that use CDA, Fenrir's allies will get CDA'd and Fenrir will just sit there not being able to do anything because his one gimmick or Triple Damage to ally won't work that well. Second of all, most CDA monsters have a second form of denial allowing them to just deny Fenrir with their other denial making him useless.

"And Metalisha can do it, but with cooldowns and just for 1 turn."

You really only need 1 turn of Triple damage tbh. Also, Metalisha can do more than just Triple damage, while that is Fenrir's whole gimmick basically. Metalisha also has a competent speed stat unlike Fenrir.