Talk:Viability Ranking/@comment-44521512-20191202161118/@comment-36515094-20191205154747

"His speed is by no means bad, and you seem to not understand that he is much much easier to obtain and rank up than most other monsters. I have him at lvl 115, for example my pumpseed is 100. I will certainly use kihaku over pumpseed."

In terms of today's standards and comparing his speed to other deniers, his speed is bad/below average. Attackers at this point are becoming faster than Kihaku. It doesn't matter if they are easier to rank up because we look at monsters when they are rank 5, since that is when all monsters are at their best rank. So, the argument about the 100 Pumpseed and 115 Kihaku doesn't support anything with his rank currently.

"I feel that you guys are very immature about this and can't take opinions, volt is by far better than the rest of the tier he is in regardless of how much you may slash him, because quite simply all of the other things like stamina drain and deny moves yada yada all apply to EVERY OTHER MONSTER like bruh, it's just ridiculous. The only valid point I read was about curse because that is a very fair point, however not a heck of a lot of monsters have that, especially not thunder. And I say that because WAR is more important than PVP because no one in high ranks that truthfully cares about viability of all monsters is gonna use anything below S anyway, however even if you are legendary rank + you very may well still use a lot of old monsters in wars. "

Remember, as we have stated many times already, of course he looks better than every monster in his tier because the Viability Ranking is still incomplete. Basically all the monsters in his tier will be moved down. When the Viability Ranking is completely done, he will be with monsters that are as good as him in B+. War is a much harder way to rank because there are restrictions in war causing it to be unpredictable as to which monsters you can use. The only real way to rank monsters based on war is by taking every single book and ranking the monsters by how good they are in each book. But, that isn't what this viability ranking is about. A separate Viability Rankng could always be made to compensate for war however. Also, low damage output is still a valid point.

"The only ones that I feel here that can have a reasonable discussion are apple, yoshi and shadowstorm, the rest act like apes that can't deal with opposing opinions.."

Thanks, but you forgot about Kyrem too, he can have great discussions.